Victimless Crimes: Should it be law?

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Of all the countless laws in the United States, there’s quite a laundry list of them that seem to have no victim when violated. In this episode, Six Pack Philosophy takes a look at several victimless crimes and how they affect society.

As with every great story of the 21st century, this one starts on Facebook. The Mistress asked her friends for help compiling a list of victimless crimes and boy did they deliver! After putting the list together and researching some of the more peculiar ones, the SPP crew breaks it down. Are they really victimless? Why were they put in place? Do they serve a purpose? Have a listen and see what you think?

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Here are links to some of the things we talked about:

Dwarf Tossing

Hard Shots:

Seatbelting Minors

John’s Dad’s Old Smuggler Friend

The Beer:

Deep Ellum Brewing Co. – Double Brown Stout

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  1. Randy Mullenax /

    Hard core drugs should not be legal. Drugs are not victimless. The victims always wind up being the community. Drug dealers and gangs selling the drugs turn communities violent. The users of the hard core drugs steal, rob, and kill for the money to buy it.

    1. jwilford /

      You point out some good crimes with victims here theft, theft again, murder but ingesting a chemical is not one of them. It is no more valid to say that the extremities of drug use make society a victim than it is to say the extremities of 44oz soda make society a victim. They are both chemicals, that people have stolen to get, and that can damage families and leave children without parents. I also have a problem with any crime where society is the victim. I will start calling society a victim when society can appear in court and testify about the pain it was caused.

    2. Anastasia Wilford / Post Author

      Robbery and murder are certainly crimes with victims, and the people who commit those crimes, no matter their motivation, should be charged. For myself, I don’t advocate that people who commit violent acts in order to sell or obtain drugs be let off the hook. What I do advocate for is that they be charged for the crimes they commit that have victims.

      When referring to dealers and gangs, you’re referring to the black market. When a thing is prohibited on the open market, it does not decrease the demand for that thing, but rather drives the market for it underground.

      If the goal of making/keeping drugs illegal is to keep people from becoming addicted, that goal has not been achieved. Even worse than not eradicating drug addiction, the illegal nature of drugs has discouraged people from seeking help who might have otherwise. There is a fear that if you seek help, you will be turned over to the police, or that if you seek help and then relapse, that you will be more likely to be thrown in jail.

      Addiction is not a crime. Some of the things that people do as a result of addiction are crimes. Addiction is an illness. And illness that has the potential to tear a person to pieces. If legalizing drugs and diverting financing from the drug war to helping people get treatment, we may just have a chance to help those in suffering to recover in a healthy, empathetic environment.

    3. jwilford /

      lol Sorry to bombard your post. I think we all got excited about the first post on SPP. Thanks for listening though and hope to hear from you again!

  2. Mike /

    I spent most of my life right where you are philosophically. I’m still not sure you’re view is not the pragmatically correct one, however I am certain it is no longer the philosophically consistent one for me. I value the right of a person to make poor decisions, and the victim in that case is himself.
    To you’re point on crime and violence. Clearly you are correct that hard core drugs lead to an increase in gang land violence and there are many victims in those cases; however, I believe that is a symptom of its illegality more than the drug itself. Thanks for listening brother!

    Mike

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  5. John's Mother-In-Law /

    When y’all do the podcast on Intellectual Property, I would like to attend so that I can hand things to Mike to throw at John. Please?

  6. Anastasia Wilford / Post Author

    I was considering bringing popcorn. You’re welcome to use that it you would like. However, I suspect Mike will want to throw something with a little more umph. Lol

    1. John's Mother-In-Law /

      Popcorn seems too – not enough – to me I feel pretty strongly about intellectual property too!

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